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Re: Sugar…. not so sweet? Part 2

Becky — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:32:15 -0000

So here's my interesting situation as of today. I am off ALL chemo for up to 6 weeks while i prepare for a liver procedure. Am I terrified? Yup! i have been juicing though and so the CSC lifestyle fairly steadily but not 100%. Now I feel like i REALLY need to ramp it up. I almost don't know where to begin! I am afraid of the cleanses because I have lost weight and don't want to lose too much more. I will look at all the stuff on this site and begin planning my days. I'll let you know how it goes. I am feeling scared but SO grateful that this site and Kris came into my life! If anyone as any suggestions, feel free to throw 'em out there. I think i know what I'm doing, but any thoughts would be good.

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apoopslingingmonkey — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:57:32 -0000

yet another awesome post! thanks beth!

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Sherry — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:50:15 -0000

Damn, just when I thought I was actually beginning to understand the entire sugar/canser concept....you guys have rocked my world again! I feel like the littlest fish in the ocean sometimes, science is constantly changing and I don't really know where to turn for information at times. So, I thank you all for your input and research and sharing....there is much to learn, many opinions, proven or otherwise, yet I am so grateful to come here and read all about it. I simply try to make informed decisions and do the best I can every day.

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Debbie — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:11:09 -0000

Ok Akihiro, I would LOVE to read your blog.. but it is in Japanese!
Thanks anyway,
your american friend
deb

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Callie — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:11:06 -0000

Love these post.. i think this is one of our number one problems.. sugar is bad..... no way around it. america consumes buckets of the stuff per person per year. And our kids.. holey moley.. keep up the good work and enjoy the crossings. hugs callie

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gary — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:58:25 -0000

typical girl - you want your cake and eat it!

Gary
http://cancerlinks.blogspot.com/

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whole_body_healer — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:20:30 -0000

Hey Brian, yeah I saw that in the Life Lounge in the Forum & I thought how appropriate for this discussion & here you have shared it!

I think it's pretty interesting & certainly begs the question of what step-wise transformation is occuring in cells prior to the "no kill" switch going off with the ongoing exposure to sugar & it brings to mind the work of the Italian guy (can't remember his name Saatchi?) who has suggested that candida underlies cancer, which is in turn thought to be stimulated by sugars & fermentation processes...and then there's the work of Robert O. Young & other's that speaks about the pH and pleomorphic entities evolving to more virulent forms in acidic conditions....sugar being one thing that contributes to this.

It seems to me that these guys are all sort of pointing to the same dynamic....the cells in our bodies transform to an environment out of balance, specifically, things that contribute to an acidic environment & sugar is one of those things. And actually, I'm not entirely sure it's really the cells themselves but perhaps the methylation pathways that get altered & they in turn flip various things on & off (like cell kill switches) in the cellular DNA. This makes sense as there has been research in epigenetics that has shown that when the methylation pathways are restored, the cellular switches go back to their "normal" positions & the health of the cell is restored. It seems that all of this research is suggesting that an acidic internal environment whether that is from sugar, negative thoughts/energy, stress or whatever, these things effect the health of our cells & thus our organs & overall health.

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Feliz! — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:06:28 -0000

Refined sugar makes me feel awful and I have learned to associate the two. It makes the idea of refined sugar awful and made my desire for it go away, over time.

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Feliz! — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:05:04 -0000

There is a lot of fuzzy science in the raw world, I appreicate you speaking up. I do NOT think everything needs to be scientifically verified (there's a lot science can't see or measure--like why refined sugar gives me hellish menstrual cramps but eating tons of fruit makes me feel good), but pseudo-science really bothers me.

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Sandra — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:39:58 -0000

I saw you on Oprah here in Sweden yesterday, one of the few times I actually watched Oprah, and you really inspired me! I wanna start living like that, in total harmony. LIVE
Peace

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Debbie — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:15:50 -0000

I have heard kris say to use more avos, nuts, seeds, coconut oils, virgin olive oils..I am sure there are more people here who are more qualified than I to answer that weight issue question... anyone?
deb

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dbrew — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:58:05 -0000

Deb-
I didn't mean maple sugar, but pure maple syrup. I know it's not raw in the sense that the sap was boiled down, but grade B maple syrup is more for baking because it's not as sweet. My number one big question is: as one deals with cancer and trying to keep to a very healthy diet as prescribed by csc - how the hell do you keep on weight? I can't afford to lose any weight as I go through treatment (and in general), and I love juicing, eating 80/20 (I am not raw however) - but I can't seem to gain any weight. What kept my weight on before this lifestyle was my own baked goods - healthy, but did include sugar, eggs, flour. It's a dilemma I know some people would love to have, but it concerns me. Thanks!
Diane

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Meg Wolff — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:33:27 -0000

Fantastic explanation. Thank you.

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Debbie — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:06:22 -0000

Hi dbrew
Maple sugar is the same as honey I think and it is also not raw. I know lots of raw foodies use it, but as you will see, we here at csc are focused on different goals ie; healing, Ph balance etc.
I say a tiny bit of any good raw sweetener is ok, but stevia and raw agave are the king and queens.. all others are below them, white sugar are the lowest of the kingdom
deb

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brigita — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:19:05 -0000

Thank you, Brian for the link. I didn't want to be a crusty ol' science coot and shout "show me the science!" but you did, so now I don't have to. ;)

Very exciting development...I'm going to have to go back to my metabolism notes and read up on Akt. :)

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dbrew — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:07:50 -0000

We'ver heard about refined sugar, fruit and honey, but what about maple syrup? A little goes a long way in granola or baked goods. Is it as "sweet" as honey?

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twilightrose — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:04:13 -0000

Hi Kris! I watched Oprah in Sweden today, as well, and I'm amazed at your power and beauty. I'm 18 years old and I had Leukemia as a child. You and your blog and your knowledge and strength have gotten me to think about the way I live my life. I'm only 18 but I'm not happy with my life. I'm not healthy and I just don't feel good about myself. You have given me a lot to think about. I think about you and the way you stay strong and happy.
All the best,
/Anna Lundh (Lundh means grove! :D)

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Ometh — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:47:04 -0000

This topic is the most important topic in my life and has been for nearly 20 years (and I'm only 34!).
I would want nothing more than quit sugar but I seem only to last for a few weeks each time before falling off the wagon. How do you guys do it to make it last a lifetime? Am in awe of those who have managed to clean up their act. Maybe the hippocrates health institute could be my rehab (will have to wait as 3 little kiddies have nowhere to go:-))
I hope there will be much more on this topic.
Happines to all!
ometh

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BrianF — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:11:38 -0000

Hi Everyone. Great discussion - you biology wonks are sexy... and sweet like a galactose transporter!

I just came across this item in today's news:
STUDY SHEDS LIGHT ON CANCER CELL'S AFFINITY WITH SUGAR
Here are excerpts:
"Experts at the Duke School of Medicine say that they are apparently close to discerning the secret behind the affinity between cancer cells and sugar... [they] found that the tumor cells use glucose sugar as a way to avoid programmed cell death...

... lab experiments showed that tumor cells make use of a protein called Akt to promote glucose metabolism, which in turn regulates a family of proteins critical for cell survival. In normal cells, the removal of growth factors that regulate metabolism and cell survival leads to loss of glucose uptake and metabolism and cell death. However, cancer cells maintain glucose metabolism and resist cell death, even when deprived of growth factors..."

"Akt's dependence on glucose to provide an anti-cell-death signal could be a sign of metabolic addiction to glucose in cancer cells, and could give us a new avenue for a metabolic treatment of cancer," said Dr. Rathmell."

Here's the link to the full article:
http://www.dailyindia.com/s...

and here's the Duke page where they got most of it:
http://www.dukehealth.org/H...

Interesting quote by the researcher: a "metabolic treatment" for cancer... any relevance to our discussion of diet?

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whole_body_healer — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:37:46 -0000

How many kids ya got there with ya (i.e. signed up)? Have fun one & all!

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Cancercowgirl — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:54:34 -0000

Hi lovelies! Just got to the crossings and WOW, this place is NICE. I want to nap but there is too much to see. Many great conversations come out of SUGAR - hot topic! This is what I know for sure, at the top holistic healing centers in the country - Hippocrates (who deal with thousands of cancer patients per year), Tree of Life, Ann Wigmore etc, they all agree that a person with cancer needs to watch the sugar intake, including fruit. This is not forever, it's for now. I myself eat fruit from time to time, so we're not saying you should swear off it, we're opening the door for chat and bringing what we have learned. Brian Clement, the director of Hippocrates and my teacher, would be much more absolute, Gabriel Cousens too (also an MD and director of Tree of Life). I will ask Brian to comment on the topic as it is so important and endlessly fascinating.

Fruit of course is much better in my mind than anything else - sadly, Brian would disagree. My motto (for the most part), I'm sweet enough baby! LOL! Am I perfect all the time - nope. It's just a direction. And, yes, too much of anything is just too much. Moderation is key in my camp BUT in my camp moderation includes education and it isn't an excuse for leaning on crutches. Cakes, candies, and sugar filled treats = crutches. They are not recommended for healing. Once we're out of the woods there is more room to party but next time around we party with knowledge. Thanks gang for such RICH conversation.

Next blog will be loaded with pix! Wish you all were here. :(

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sierra — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:29:46 -0000

I read that the sweetness of agave is fructose.

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brigita — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:10:26 -0000

W_B_H--you beat me to the punch re: glycemic load! Here's what I was about to post:

I completely agree that eating foods that have a low glycemic index (and glycemic load) is just good nutrition. Constantly spiking your insulin with junk food is bad for many reasons. We should all strive to consume a diet that is nutrient dense and calorie poor, ie rich in whole grains, vegetables AND fruits.

But to say that a person living with cancer shouldn't eat fruit? I don't know...if a person going through treatment--eastern, western, whatever--craves fruit and can digest it without too much problem, I say more power to them! I *wish* I'd had the desire to eat (much less the ability to digest) fruit when I was going through radiation.

Fruit is such an important source of vitamins, phytochemicals, and fiber--both soluble and insoluble--and has a relatively low GI & GL, I see it to be squarely in the cancer fighting (vs. "cancer feeding") camp.